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Oracle TranslationHub neither supported for 12c Database, 12c Forms/Reports or 64 bit!

If you need TranslationHub (Windows only) for your forms and reports development and plan to move to one of the following

  • 12c Database for your TranslationHub repository
  • 12c Forms/Reports (only available for 64 bit Windows)
  • higher version of 64 bit 11g Forms/Reports

then please immediately stop! None of this combination works with TranslationHub!

For the last point I had created enhancement request 14155931 back in June 2012!

For the first point I had created a service request last week I and get following answer:

Unfortunately, OTH is no longer supported or being developed. Customers can continue to use OTH as-is.
About the errors, based on today’s standards, OTH has several limitations: 

  1. It is a 32bit product and expects to co-exist with a 32bit DB and optional Forms/Reports installation. 64bit installations will not work.
  2. Likely OTH will not work correctly on newer operating systems like Windows 8.1 or newer. It likely will also not be stable on Windows 7-x64 either, although it may generally seem to function.
  3. It may be possible to use a version 12 database as the target database for OTH projects, however this has never been certified and therefore shouldn’t be supported if issues arise.

Although Oracle currently do not have replacement for OTH, the Forms team is working on a possible alternative that may be available in the future. If customers require the use of OTH immediately, they should consider installing and using it in an environment that was previously certified for its use.
The Oracle Technology Network Forums should be considered (for the customer) if there are questions about OTH.

Product Management is aware of the importance of this situation.
Any news regarding OTH will be published on Forms’s OTN page, however, for the moment, unfortunately, there is not much we can help with, in Support.

As 11g Database and 11g Forms will run out of support soon in my opinion Oracle has immediately to provide a working 64bit TranslationHub for 12c Database and Forms as long you has no replacement for this tool.

What do you think?

Update: See the according discussion on the forms forum.

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SLES shell script to check required os packages according to documentation before starting oracle forms & reports installation


If you try to install oracle forms & reports on SLES 11.3 than despite all installer checks are passed maybe you get a message like:

Error in invoking target ‘install’ of makefile ‘<FR_HOME>/sqlplus/lib/’.

The reuirement check of the installer shows only missing openmotif classes which are not really required on SLES (see Doc ID 1567715.1), but no problems with a compiler or something similar.

Checking for binutils-2.19-11.28; found binutils-2.23.1-0.23.15-x86_64. Passed
Checking for gcc-4.3-62.198; found gcc-4.3-62.200.2-x86_64. Passed
Checking for gcc-c++-4.3-62.198; found gcc-c++-4.3-62.200.2-x86_64. Passed
Checking for glibc-2.9-13.2; found glibc-2.11.3-17.87.3-x86_64. Passed
Checking for glibc-32bit-2.9-13.2; found glibc-32bit-2.11.3-17.87.3-x86_64. Passed
Checking for glibc-devel-2.9; found glibc-devel-2.11.3-17.87.3-x86_64. Passed
Checking for glibc-devel-32bit-2.9-13.2; found glibc-devel-32bit-2.11.3-17.87.3-x86_64. Passed
Checking for libaio-0.3.104-140.22; found libaio-0.3.109-0.1.46-x86_64. Passed
Checking for libaio-devel-0.3.104-140.22; found libaio-devel-0.3.109-0.1.46-x86_64. Passed
Checking for libgcc43-4.3.3_20081022; found libgcc43-4.6.9-0.13.22-x86_64. Passed
Checking for libstdc++43-4.3.3_20081022-11.18; found libstdc++43-4.6.9-0.13.22-x86_64. Passed
Checking for libstdc++43-devel-4.3.3_20081022-11.18; found libstdc++43-devel-4.3.4_20091019-0.37.30-x86_64. Passed
Checking for make-3.81; found make-3.81-128.20-x86_64. Passed
Checking for sysstat-8.1.5-7.8; found sysstat-8.1.5-7.47.1-x86_64. Passed
Checking for openmotif22-2.2.3; Not found. Failed <<<<
Checking for openmotif-2.2.3; found openmotif-2.3.1-3.15.1-x86_64. Passed
Check complete. The overall result of this check is: Failed <<<<

The problem here is, that sometime not all checks for os packages are really implemented in the installer. I have a SR to open a bug for this.

In the meantime I have implemented a bash shell script to check against the required os packages in the documentation. For my problem these are listed here. You can simple copy the required packages at the top of the script in the array sections.

The magic contains some bash substring modifications an using the version compare option of zipper.



while [[ $i -lt $len ]]; do 

  installed_package_version="`rpm -q ${required_package_name} --queryformat %{version}-%{release}`"
  if [ $RETCODE -eq 0 ]; then
    compare="`zypper --terse versioncmp ${required_package_version} ${installed_package_version}`"
    if [ $compare -eq 1 ]; then
      echo [$result1] $required_package_name Reqired : $required_package_version Installed: $installed_package_version
      echo [$result1] $required_package_name Reqired : $required_package_version Installed: $installed_package_version
    echo [fail] $installed_package_version
  let i++; 

If you run this script you can see the failing packages on your platform:

[pass] binutils Reqired : 2.19-11.28 Installed: 2.23.1-0.23.15
[pass] gcc Reqired : 4.3-62.198 Installed: 4.3-62.200.2
[pass] gcc-c++ Reqired : 4.3-62.198 Installed: 4.3-62.200.2
[fail] package gcc-32bit is not installed
[pass] glibc Reqired : 2.9-13.2 Installed: 2.11.3-17.84.1
[pass] glibc-32bit Reqired : 2.9-13.2 Installed: 2.11.3-17.84.1
[pass] glibc-devel Reqired : 2.9 Installed: 2.11.3-17.84.1
[pass] glibc-devel-32bit Reqired : 2.9-13.2 Installed: 2.11.3-17.87.3
[pass] ksh Reqired : 93t Installed: 93u-0.26.1
[pass] libaio Reqired : 0.3.104-140.22 Installed: 0.3.109-0.1.46
[pass] libaio-devel Reqired : 0.3.104-140.22 Installed: 0.3.109-0.1.46
[pass] libaio-32bit Reqired : 0.3.104 Installed: 0.3.109-0.1.46
[fail] package libaio-devel-32bit is not installed
[pass] libgcc43 Reqired : 4.3.3_20081022 Installed: 4.6.9-0.13.22
[pass] libstdc++43 Reqired : 4.3.3_20081022-11.18 Installed: 4.6.9-0.13.22
[pass] libstdc++43-devel Reqired : 4.3.3_20081022-11.18 Installed: 4.3.4_20091019-0.37.30
[pass] libstdc++33 Reqired : 3.3.3 Installed: 3.3.3-11.9
[pass] libstdc++33-32bit Reqired : 3.3.3 Installed: 3.3.3-11.9
[pass] libstdc++43-32bit Reqired : 4.3.3_20081022 Installed: 4.6.9-0.13.22
[fail] package libstdc++43-devel-32bit is not installed
[pass] libstdc++-devel Reqired : 4.3 Installed: 4.3-62.200.2
[pass] make Reqired : 3.81 Installed: 3.81-128.20
[pass] openmotif Reqired : 2.3.1-3.13 Installed: 2.3.1-3.15.1
[fail] package openmotif-devel-32bit is not installed
[fail] package openmotif22-libs-32bit is not installed
[pass] openmotif-libs Reqired : 2.3.1-3.13 Installed: 2.3.1-3.15.1
[pass] openmotif-devel Reqired : 2.3.1-3.13 Installed: 2.3.1-3.15.1
[fail] package openmotif-libs-32bit is not installed
[fail] package openmotif21-libs-32bit is not installed
[pass] openmotif22-libs Reqired : 2.2.4-138.17 Installed: 2.2.4-193.1
[pass] sysstat Reqired : 8.1.5-7.8 Installed: 8.1.5-7.47.1

The route cause for the error message in the installer are line 4 and 13, where 32bit Compiler are required for making sql plus despite this forms and reports installation is 64bit version.

Maybe you can use this script with little modification in other environments.

That’s it.

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Oracle Reports Designer 11g 64bit on Windows7 64bit very buggy – Use Reports 32bit instead!

As I have seen in Oracle certification matrix Forms & Reports 11g 64bit is supported under Windows7 64bit. So I tried to install it and to work with it. Unfortunatly there are serious bugs in it, please read for more information MOS Doc ID 1395965.1:

  1. After starting Reports Builder, trying to open “Data Model” or “Web Source” will crash the Report Builder
  2. Impossibility to create a Query based on a Pluggable Data Source (PDS) in reports builder
  3. Reports Builder spins on CPU (grabbing full power of one CPU) when “Copy/Paste” functionality is used in Layout Model

For 1./2. is a workaround to disable all Pluggable Data Source (PDS) in cauprefs.ora, if you don’t use that feature.

But for 3. is no workaround besides to use Forms & Reports 11g 32bit!

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TranslationHub 11g is only available as 32 bit – requires Forms & Reports 11g too in 32 bit for Development

I have done the whole may scripting silent installs of several developer tools. Among them was Fusion Midleware 11.1.2 Forms & Reports. I see that oracle certifies the 64bit installers on win7 64bit and so I have successfully script this after a lot of time. I want not speak about the many errors in silent installers here.

As we use TranslationHub for translating our forms, menus and reports, I tried last weeks to script this and after this to batch import all my original and translated modules as 11g versions, as this is required before roll out fusion middleware to our users.

First I have seen that TranslationHub is only available in 32bit as standalone version outside Fusion Middleware. Additional there is no silent installer available for this separate package. Asking support for 64bit version and silent install option results in two enhancement requests. Everybody who has created such an request before know, that he does not get this in some weeks, very likely he got it never. Fortunatly our scripting boys have recorded and repackaged this installer. The 32bit version installs on win7 64bit and starts.

But now begins the really horror: I could not see forms and reports in the import wizards, my batch jobs fails. The 32bit TranslationHub version seems not find the 64bit Forms version. So the work begins again – I had to script the 32bit version of Fusion Midleware 11.1.2 Forms & Reports for the developers. Fortunatly this works very similar to 64bit, and I complete this package in several ours. Now

One additional note for TranslationHub: You must ensure that the first entry in the path variable is an 32bit Oracle Client for succesfull connect to your TranslationHub repository.

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